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          > Limring som fungerar - tips?, svartmyror hittar ändå upp på bigarråträdet
          oliv
          Inlägg 17-06-2009, 08:33
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          Jag har problem med svartmyror på bigarråträdet (blir svart pga alla bladlöss).
          Jag har försökt med olika typer av limring. Kardborreband med kletig substans (efter ett tag gick ändå myrorna över), plast med en kletig sida som träs på med metalltråd (för att inga myror skulle krypa under plastet fick jag snöra in stammen hårt med metalltråden med följd att stammen fick fula märken - det låter inte bra att försvaga trädet med sår på barken - bra hälsa - starkt försvar är mitt motto), nu i år försökte jag med kletig plast och kardborre, men ändå går myrorna efter ett tag över sina egna döda kroppar! Jag har alltså inte hittad en bra lösning. angry.gif

          Är det någon som har lyckats bli av med myrorna? dunno.gif


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          KURT
          Inlägg 18-06-2009, 05:23
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          Jag förstår bara inte hur svårt det kan vara att läsa innantill i vanliga reviewartiklar?

          "Ledoux ( 82 ) observed workers of O. longinoda carrying young
          coccids to newly built nests and, more significantly, Way ( 144) proved
          experimentally that they carry them to, and establish them on twigs outside
          the nests ; each worker carried one young larva of Saissetia zanzibarensis,
          placed it in position and solicited it for a few seconds before departing.

          Ledoux (82) reports that larval and adult Membracidae are not carried by
          O. longinoda workers but are "herded" by the ants into new feeding sites
          which are always outside the nests. The building of silken shelters and the
          "herding," as distinct from the carrying of attended Homoptera, seem to
          be further interesting modifications of brood care behaviour.
          The other well-substantiated example of transport is from Biinzli's
          (27) work on species of Acropyga which are the tropical equivalent of
          Lasius and appear to behave rather like Lasius to their attended coccids.
          In its nests Acropyga paramaribensis may tend at least five species of root
          feeding coccids of which Neorhizoecus coffeae is typical. When the coccids
          mature, honeydew production ceases and they are transported by the worker
          ants to chambers which are separate from those containing the ant brood
          and immature stages of the coccid. The newly laid coccid eggs are carried
          back to the brood chambers where they may be mixed with coccid larvae
          and with the ants' eggs and larvae. The most remarkable feature of the
          association is that each of the virgin females of the ant carries an already
          fertilized first instar female coccid in her mandibles when departing on the
          nuptial flight. Biinzli refers to similar behaviour by virgin queens of other
          Acro pyga and Cladomyrma spp.
          Other ant species are said to transport their attended Homoptera though
          some of the published evidence needs to be substantiated. In Jamaica,
          Coccus viridis was thought to be disseminated in citrus plantations by species
          of Solenopsis and Crematogaster spp. ( 43 ) . In the Philippines, Dysmicoccus
          brevipes (Cockerell ) is said to be carried to pineapple fields by S olenopsis
          and Crematogaster spp. ( 124 ) , and in West Africa by Campanotus,
          Crematogaster, and Pheidole ( 1 15 ) . C ampanotus spp. may also transport
          coccids to young coffee plants in W. Africa ( 38) . Strickland's ( 134 ) observation
          that crematogasterine ants carried Planococcoides njalensis from
          felled to nearby living cocoa trees is confirmed by Cornwell ( 32) who found
          that this happened uncommonly even with Crematogaster striatula Emery
          which carried more than Crematogaster african a Mayr."

          "Finally, there is the remarkable example of the pseudococcid genus
          Hippeococcus described by Reyne ( 1 16 ) from Java. All of the known
          species are associated with ants of the genus Dolichoderus which tend them
          on twigs and fruits of various shrubs and trees as well as in underground
          nests where mature females predominate. When disturbed, the very active
          young larvae climb onto the bodies of the ants while others are collected
          by the ants and are either placed on their bodies or carried away in their
          mouthparts. This habit of the "ant riding" by Hippeococcus spp. is apparently
          facilitated by their exceptionally long, raptorial legs and flat, suckerlike
          tarsal digitules."
           
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          Aqvakul
          Inlägg 18-06-2009, 06:57
          Länk hit: #3


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          CITAT (KURT @ 18-06-2009, 06:23) *
          Jag förstår bara inte hur svårt det kan vara att läsa innantill i vanliga reviewartiklar?

          "Ledoux ( 82 ) observed workers of O. longinoda carrying young
          coccids to newly built nests and, more significantly, Way ( 144) proved
          experimentally that they carry them to, and establish them on twigs outside
          the nests ; each worker carried one young larva of Saissetia zanzibarensis,
          placed it in position and solicited it for a few seconds before departing.

          Ledoux (82) reports that larval and adult Membracidae are not carried by
          O. longinoda workers but are "herded" by the ants into new feeding sites
          which are always outside the nests. The building of silken shelters and the
          "herding," as distinct from the carrying of attended Homoptera, seem to
          be further interesting modifications of brood care behaviour.
          The other well-substantiated example of transport is from Biinzli's
          (27) work on species of Acropyga which are the tropical equivalent of
          Lasius and appear to behave rather like Lasius to their attended coccids.
          In its nests Acropyga paramaribensis may tend at least five species of root
          feeding coccids of which Neorhizoecus coffeae is typical. When the coccids
          mature, honeydew production ceases and they are transported by the worker
          ants to chambers which are separate from those containing the ant brood
          and immature stages of the coccid. The newly laid coccid eggs are carried
          back to the brood chambers where they may be mixed with coccid larvae
          and with the ants' eggs and larvae. The most remarkable feature of the
          association is that each of the virgin females of the ant carries an already
          fertilized first instar female coccid in her mandibles when departing on the
          nuptial flight. Biinzli refers to similar behaviour by virgin queens of other
          Acro pyga and Cladomyrma spp.
          Other ant species are said to transport their attended Homoptera though
          some of the published evidence needs to be substantiated. In Jamaica,
          Coccus viridis was thought to be disseminated in citrus plantations by species
          of Solenopsis and Crematogaster spp. ( 43 ) . In the Philippines, Dysmicoccus
          brevipes (Cockerell ) is said to be carried to pineapple fields by S olenopsis
          and Crematogaster spp. ( 124 ) , and in West Africa by Campanotus,
          Crematogaster, and Pheidole ( 1 15 ) . C ampanotus spp. may also transport
          coccids to young coffee plants in W. Africa ( 38) . Strickland's ( 134 ) observation
          that crematogasterine ants carried Planococcoides njalensis from
          felled to nearby living cocoa trees is confirmed by Cornwell ( 32) who found
          that this happened uncommonly even with Crematogaster striatula Emery
          which carried more than Crematogaster african a Mayr."

          "Finally, there is the remarkable example of the pseudococcid genus
          Hippeococcus described by Reyne ( 1 16 ) from Java. All of the known
          species are associated with ants of the genus Dolichoderus which tend them
          on twigs and fruits of various shrubs and trees as well as in underground
          nests where mature females predominate. When disturbed, the very active
          young larvae climb onto the bodies of the ants while others are collected
          by the ants and are either placed on their bodies or carried away in their
          mouthparts. This habit of the "ant riding" by Hippeococcus spp. is apparently
          facilitated by their exceptionally long, raptorial legs and flat, suckerlike
          tarsal digitules."



          Jag förstår inte heller varför det skulle vara så svårt att plocka fram texten...

          I de abstracts du hänvisat till stod inget...

          OK - jag är övertygad, alltid kul att lära sig något nytt





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          oliv   Limring som fungerar - tips?   17-06-2009, 08:33
          Rafael   Vattna dem (myrorna)! Inte ett par futtiga vat...   17-06-2009, 08:56
          Aqvakul   Är jag dum, eller handlar det inte i första hand o...   17-06-2009, 09:17
          Rafael   Myror och bladlöss är kopplade problem: bladlöss ä...   17-06-2009, 09:29
          Aqvakul   Myror och bladlöss är kopplade problem: bladlöss ä...   17-06-2009, 09:58
          oliv   Rafael: jag ska prova med högtryckstvätten nästa å...   17-06-2009, 11:43
          Aqvakul   Varför inte spola uppe i trädet mot bladlössen?   17-06-2009, 11:46
          oliv   Jag brukade spola, men jag vill få bort myrorna, f...   17-06-2009, 11:55
          KURT   Interactions Involving Plants, Homoptera, and Ants...   17-06-2009, 11:58
          Aqvakul   Interactions Involving Plants, Homoptera, and Ants...   17-06-2009, 13:55
          KURT   Var står det att myrorna släpar upp bladlössen i t...   17-06-2009, 16:07
          CeciliaR   Jag skulle också vara mycket intresserad om någon ...   17-06-2009, 12:05
          Rafael   Högtryckstvätt är inte alls bra för rötter. Den ka...   17-06-2009, 12:23
          vivvi42   Testa att hälla ut Fun Light saft runt om trädet.....   17-06-2009, 15:19
          Aqvakul   "In the spring the ants carry the young aphid...   17-06-2009, 17:15
          KURT   "In the spring the ants carry the young aphid...   17-06-2009, 18:54
          Aqvakul   Ja, är det inte imponerande att myrorna vet att ro...   17-06-2009, 19:10
          Digger   http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myror   17-06-2009, 18:09
          Azur   Läser man ännu fler av artiklarna hittar man bl.a....   18-06-2009, 08:09
          Aqvakul   Läser man ännu fler av artiklarna hittar man bl.a....   18-06-2009, 08:19
          KURT   Jag håller ju med om att myrorna i de allra flesta...   18-06-2009, 09:05


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